Website

topic posted Wed, December 5, 2007 - 11:02 AM by  Araña
I would like to design my own website for my new business. I have friends that use Go Daddy and swear by it. I also have friends that have advised me to use my own Mac hosting program. I want to keep it simple, please advise!
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Araña
Las Vegas
  • Re: Website

    Wed, December 5, 2007 - 11:55 PM
    This is the type of question that my site was designed to answer. Too bad it's on hold indefinitely while I'm finishing other projects. First I need to make some assumptions:

    1. You need to do you website as cheaply as possible.
    2. Besides design you don't really know any of the other steps in the web site process.
    3. You have some technical expertise with computers or can learn it.

    Here are the shortened version:

    1. Register you domain.

    GoDaddy is around $9/year and Network Solutions is $25/year. I currently have 3 personal domains registered with GoDaddy and 6 with Network Solutions. Godaddy as too many ads and the interface is annoying. Network Solution costs more but I think their site is more usable. Use www.whois.sc to see if your domain is available. Don't use Godaddy's search or Network Solutions search. The current rumor is that those searches get sent to companies that buy up domains that people search on in order to resell them at a higher cost.

    2. Find hosting. I use idleserv.net (for PHP) and veehosting.com (for .NET) . Cost is less than $10/month. Ask for a recommendation. Google the companies name + complaints. If the company has a bunch of complaints better to avoid them.

    3. Input your name server information into GoDaddy, Network Solutions or whatever company you decide to choose. Some where in all the menus, there's a place to enter your name server info which you get from the hosting compay. After entering this information, you will be able to type www.yourcompanyname.com and go to the site.

    4. Design your site. I'm assuming you know how to do this. Design in photoshop, not Illustrator. Illustrator anti-aliases lines when you convert them to jpgs or gifs.

    5. Code your site. Learn HTML/CSS or hire someone to code it for you.

    6. Upload your site to your hosting company.


    As for the other steps, everybody has their own methodology. You can read about how I designed my site at:

    www.ockhamdesign.com/about/o...te-1.php


    Good luck.
    • rax
      rax
      offline 7

      Re: Website

      Thu, December 6, 2007 - 1:46 AM
      Thanks for the domain reg info.
      I've been stupidly looking at net sol and never seem to find what i want (and their UI/flow sux if you are trying multiple times).
    • Re: Website

      Thu, December 6, 2007 - 10:08 AM
      Thanks Corin! I already have a domain. I have never created a website, but I do know my way around a computer (Mac). I would like to create and maintain it myself. I don't mind paying as much as $50.00 per year. I just want a host that is user friendly. Any suggestions?
      Thanks again
      Kaya
      • Re: Website

        Thu, December 6, 2007 - 12:32 PM
        Well your enot actually going to be doing that much with the host interface... maybe adding a subdomain or adding users if youre using that for authentication or something... but other than that everything should be done through ftp or ssh/sftp so the admin interface is fairly irrelevant.
        • Re: Website

          Fri, December 7, 2007 - 3:46 PM
          yeah, you're right, but even still... i hate having to set up stuff with goDaddy when clients want that... the interface is nightmarish.

          i use netfirms and have signed up lots of clients to them (the affiliate program is useful: 50% of the first year hosting goes back to you). One of the reasons I use them for clients is that their interface is nice to look at, uncluttered, easy to use, etc and does everything that you would need it to do. (i think_) They have not yet steered me wrong (and they have a really good eco-consciousness rating which is kind of ambiguous, but still... they are working on it...) and for fifty bucks a year or so (60 i think) you get a pretty good set-up that will do everything you need it to. and their customer service is helpful.
          • Re: Website

            Fri, December 7, 2007 - 5:27 PM
            "i hate having to set up stuff with goDaddy when clients want that... the interface is nightmarish. "

            Well while i still stand by my earlier comment i totally agee with you. Actually all the hosts ive used except 2 have a HORRID interface in my opinion. MediaTemple who i use now has a good interface. Jumpline who i used some years ago had a decent one then - i dunno if they still do or if they are even still around since that was pre .com bust days. The others ive used - Network Solutions, 1and1, GoDaddy (only for reg) have all been horrendous.
      • Re: Website

        Fri, December 7, 2007 - 6:43 PM
        I've had good luck with the following web hosts:

        www.bravenet.com/

        www.lunarpages.com/

        www.qualserv.net/

        The playing field is getting pretty level in the hosting world, so I don't really see any major advantage of one over the other. The two items of note that I'd recommend looking into are:

        ~ If you are looking into having PHP/MySQL in your website, make sure the host offers, and you select, having your site hosted on a Linux server and not a Windows server. GoDaddy's hosting offers both as well.

        ~ Lunarpages seems to have the lowest prices at first glance, and we're using it for an Advanced Dreamweaver/PHP/MySQL class and it seems to be pretty solid.

        And offhand, I think that while hosting your site on your own computer sounds good at first, I'd just as soon let a hosting company deal with all of the spam and bandwidth issues you might run into. That's just me though, the last thing I want to do is spend time debugging Apache issues when I could be learning a new Flash technique.

        Regardless, good luck and let us know what you end up doing.

        SMSapphire
      • Re: Website

        Fri, December 7, 2007 - 11:33 PM
        I'm not sure if I've found any host that's particularly more user friendly than another. Competition drives the cost of goods and services to their marginal cost. Right now that cost is around $4.95/month for Linux hosting with PHP/MySQL.

        I'm not sure if you'll find something for $50/year that won't compromise the quality of service or hosting.

        Here's how I found my hosting.

        1. I got recommendations. From different social networks, from friends, from webhostingtalk.com
        2. I came up with a list of twenty hosting companies that sounded promising from comments and praise.
        3. I Googled complaints on each one of those companies. Any company that had even a single of complaint of continued billing after you tried to cancel, I crossed off the list. I crossed of the list companies that had large complaints of downtime.
        4. After that I ended up with a list of 4. I asked around for domains of people hosted with those companies. Typed in the domains at www.myipneighbors.com/ to see how many domains there were per server.
        5. After that I compared prices and features and that's how I ended up with the two domains I'm using now. Both are England by coincidence.

        I can't really seem to differentiate between hosting companies. There's no brand and one seems exactly like the other. The interfaces all look the same to me after I login. The only thing that would differentiate a good hosting company would be how good their customer service is. Since I've never had any issues with the companies I'm with, I've never had to call or email their customer service.

        Since you've never designed a site here is my two cents.

        Design with Photoshop. Build with a text editor (I use Dreamweaver on PC and I've used BBEdit on Mac)

        Don't just open up a WYSIWIG Editor and start dragging images and typing in text. The reason for this is simple. Editors (even WYSIWIG Editors) are building tools, not design tools. It's like making a lamp. Pen and paper is your design tool and the lathe and chisel are the build tools.

        You don't have to draw the design of the lamp first. You can just turn on the lathe and start carving, but at this point you're just building and the design you end up with may not be the design that works for what you wanted. Same goes with web sites.

  • pj
    pj
    offline 44

    Re: Website

    Fri, December 21, 2007 - 7:54 PM
    do you have tiger with iweb on it ?

    That would be a great way to make your site, it will be perhaps the best solution for you, its not a perfect progam, this iweb - for instace a simple webpage came to something like 500 kb - made all png files instead of jpg - i bet they changed that - if not you can just have someone change your images to jpg or gif later...

    its good because you just drag and drop, move stuff around.

    Good luck !

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