What are the drawbacks of Dreamweaver

topic posted Wed, July 30, 2008 - 12:02 PM by  Jivatma
I'm wondering what everyones opinion is of dreamweaver. I am thinking of starting a company that designs web sites for local businesses at reasonable prices. Is this a feasible idea? I already am familiar with the basics of HTML coding, but beyond that, don't know much about the web design business and stuff, I would probably be getting someone else to do the server for now.
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Jivatma
Connecticut
  • Re: What are the drawbacks of Dreamweaver

    Wed, July 30, 2008 - 1:54 PM
    Website design is beyond HTML. You should familiarize yourself with CSS as well. That said, I've never noted a drawback to Dreamweaver in my experiences with it (cost $$ maybe). I use it when I am creating static sites. Dreamweaver is just a tool.

    DW allows you to:
    * view your pages as you build them
    * manage your web sites with ease and efficiency
    * apply attributes to Web page elements using the "property inspector"
    * incorporate the latest DW extensions and the current technologies like Macromedia Flash
    * exert more control over your site and site files
    * can create template and library items

    The tool isn't as important as knowledge of design and site architecture, as well as some understanding of code. I find most businesses need more than HTML these days. I build more PHP/MYSQL sites then basic static ones. BTW - It isn't a bad idea to let someone else manage your server. I have always outsourced the hosting server.

    ~ Myst
    • Re: What are the drawbacks of Dreamweaver

      Wed, July 30, 2008 - 3:08 PM
      in agreement with Mystical: I actually find it's easier to maintain a PHP site because for example say you have a site with ten pages and you make a tiny change to the links or something. If you have ten static pages, you have to go in and make that change individually to each of the ten pages. If you are using PHP, you have your links as an included file, you only have to make the change once and it's dynamically changed throughout the whole site.

      as for starting a business, I wish you the best of luck; I started mine a couple years ago and I think it will really take off next year.

      I do use Dreamweaver but I also use Adobe CS

      the thing about web design is it's not just the coding, you have to create and manipulate a lot of graphics. So I guess whether you get Adobe CS or Macromedia MX or whatever they are selling now, you'll want to make sure you get something that also includes programs that will create and make change to both vector art and bitmap based graphics.

      cautionary: while it's true you can view your web pages as you build them using the preview feature of programs like Dreamweaver and GoLive, this can be quite problematic because sadly the different major browsers do not always display the same code in the same way. They interpret margins and padding differently; one may not recognize certain commands or methods; and so on and so forth. You really have to test test test before final deployment, and chances are you'll catch some bugs after that. Heck I just had some bugs pointed out to me that I wrote probably a couple years ago...... those were my own fault, not a browser problem, but anyway.
      • Re: What are the drawbacks of Dreamweaver

        Wed, July 30, 2008 - 6:10 PM
        Note: Even when you utilize Dreamweavers Templates and Library items you have to apply that change throughout the site an upload all the updated pages effect by the change. Using PHP (as Jesse points out) allows you to modify a single file and post just that single file.

        I just remembered issues with Dreamweaver...
        * Links to Template and Library items can break and cause errors when updating pages
        * Links can be out of whack when your Relative to: Site or Document isn't set correctly
        * Design view *usually* isn't accurate when building with CSS

        I don't really use the design view as a real life representation of my pages, it is best to rely on your browsers for that.

        Drupal Rocks!
        ~ Mystical
      • Re: What are the drawbacks of Dreamweaver

        Thu, August 7, 2008 - 6:31 PM
        So PHP is sort of similar to CSS in that you don't have to go around and change a bunch of content on your pages....kind of makes things easier? I am doing the Lynda.com tutorials for CS3, and they have PHP in it, just haven't gotten to it yet...but that's really good to know, what you said about PHP, I keep hearing about it all over, i see a lot of sites have it...like Facebook i noticed has it. But you are saying it's also beneficial for less complicated websites too though right? Thanks for the luck. I'm not going to do it yet, I got a lot of work cut out for myself first, I guess posting a couple of sites is probably in order, after I learn the software, just to see what it's like to maintain it, and make it work in the first place...
  • Re: What are the drawbacks of Dreamweaver

    Thu, July 31, 2008 - 6:44 AM
    well you'll need to know more than just HTML, you'll need CSS and possibly Javascript as well.

    As for DW, I've never had any problem with it. I tend to use Visual Studio on my PC due to a free version which does (almost) as good a job as DW.

    DW can be pricey. I live in the UK and it's even more expensive here than the States. If you look at the same product on the US site and on the UK site and apply a conversion (noting that the dollar is roughly half the pound) the price of DW on the US is MUCH cheaper.
    • Re: What are the drawbacks of Dreamweaver

      Thu, August 7, 2008 - 6:45 PM
      yeah, I need to know a lot more than HTML from the sounds of these replies. LOL. damn! thought it was going to be a smash and grab job..looks like it's going to be slightly more complicated than that...what kinds of things does javascript allow you to do on web pages? Whenever I hear javascript I get nervous for some reason, haha
  • Re: What are the drawbacks of Dreamweaver

    Sat, August 2, 2008 - 2:43 PM
    It doesnt sound like youre really in a position to be going into this business on your own. If all you knwo is some html youre going to find yourself lacking, as others have pointed out at the minimum you need to know HTML and CSS. Anymore you need to kknow some Javascript as well and familiarity with at least one of the JS frameworks (Prototype, jQuery, etc..). Beyond that knowing a Dynamic language would be good (Ruby, C#.Net, PHP, etc..). Given that you dont know most of this, if I were you I would spend more time looking for viable contractors/partners that do know these things, ask them what they use, and then conform to thier sotware choice and methodology.
    • Re: What are the drawbacks of Dreamweaver

      Sat, August 2, 2008 - 2:55 PM
      >If all you knwo is some html youre going to find yourself lacking, as others have pointed out at the minimum you need to know HTML and CSS. Anymore you need to kknow some Javascript as well and familiarity with at least one of the JS frameworks (Prototype, jQuery, etc..). Beyond that knowing a Dynamic language would be good (Ruby, C#.Net, PHP, etc..).

      Good advice.

      One of my local web design friends has never liked DW because she felt DW added a lot of extraneous code to a page. I'm a hand coder myself, so that has caused me to shy away from it too. But as others have said the increasing complexity of sites makes it more attractive to use these days.
  • Re: What are the drawbacks of Dreamweaver

    Wed, August 6, 2008 - 3:22 AM
    love the program , but it will not teach you to code better , its just a tool .......theres a drawback
    as everbody easle has posted theres more to web design than html , there's a wide skill set that grows day by day - its a life time of learning which is kinda fun most days.

    weather your idea of a reasonable price works out to actually pay for the amount of hours you'll put in to making sites will decide weather is "feasable"

    but hey lets also mention the design aspect - theres a visual element, and some clever planning, going on here thats also important .....thats why is called web DESIGN not web (something easle) paper is better - dreamweaver will also not make you a better designer .... dammmmm
    • Re: What are the drawbacks of Dreamweaver

      Thu, August 7, 2008 - 6:54 PM
      sounds good.
      • Re: What are the drawbacks of Dreamweaver

        Tue, August 12, 2008 - 10:04 PM
        I'm in the same camp as some of the above- won't touch Dreamweaver because it creates too much extraneous code. I'm sure it's gotten better over the years, but I prefer hand coding.

        That being said, most of you have missed one very fundamental point regarding web design: DESIGN. You can know all the code languages in the world but if you don't have a have a knowledge of the science of graphic design, marketing design, and usability then the languages aren't worth much. And it is a science. Do you know the first place the human eye naturally falls on a document when viewing a page? Do you know what complementary colors are, and how they work together? Do you know the width of a column of text which is least fatiguing?

        When I say "you" I'm speaking generally, not specifically at any of YOU. And I'm not sayin'...I'm just sayin'...

        Video killed the radio star...and Dreamweaver killed good design.
        • Re: What are the drawbacks of Dreamweaver

          Wed, August 13, 2008 - 12:48 AM
          Ha I kinda have to agree. I mean let's face it, if you can design a website and all you need to do is code it, then Notepad or TextEdit would do.
          I only like programs like Dreamweaver 'cos you can use templates and get code hints to make things quicker.
        • Re: What are the drawbacks of Dreamweaver

          Wed, August 13, 2008 - 9:16 PM
          i disagree - dreamwever in itself dont kill good design - its more the tendency to jump into code without planning.....that does that -
          someone one said "a good craftsperson never blames there tools " its still true ....unless your using frontpage but hey thats another issue ...